Tourelle MRS-80 installée sur MOWAG Tornado en 1975. IFV construit en 1985. Even if we change anything, replace … Climbing the ranks with British aircraft - War Thunder Official Channel Pages in category "Britain aircraft" The following 121 pages are in this category, out of 121 total. Au début, j’ai essayé d’éviter trop de copies - et c’est pourquoi tous les chars suisses pourraient être ici (par exemple, j’ai évité certains réservoirs d’importation comme AMX-13 ou Patton). Today we discuss the vehicles of one of the first nations of War Thunder. Loading... Unsubscribe from Tankenstein? +1 hopefully Gaijin does some more reasearch and can actually add this tree. Whilst mechanically a failure in US testing, it was used by the Dutch. For those wondering how a SA tech tree could look like! Only one (or few) was built, but vehicle was unsuccessful because at that time ATGM were much better than 80 mm twin launcher. On 23/11/2019 at 17:18, Nicholas_Concu said: On 25/05/2020 at 09:11, _Condottiero_ said: Le 19/11/2019 à 05:19, PikPikkker a déclaré: 1. Ils sont tous différents: avec et sans tourelles, avec une bonne et avec une mauvaise protection. © 2021 Gaijin Network Ltd. All rights reserved. It was introduced in Update 1.37.Setting the basis for the definitive version of the Bf 109, the F-4, the Bf 109 F-1 … MOWAG Roland équipé expérimentalement de 3 Mamba ATGM au-dessus de la tourelle dans les années 1960. ), and the like. Now I will give a little review on each line. I've been playing War Thunder … MLRS par MOWAG des années 1960 (20 tubes vraisemblablement de 122 mm). There is no SAM machines, but their guns will become deadly in the right hands. IFV built in 1985. The Swedish makes their play with a full aviation tech tree in War Thunder, as well as their first threads on the ground with the new ground tech tree! Light tanks with tiny protection but with dangerous armament. Like can you describe the ammunition stowage for each of these, or gun depression angles, internal and crew layout, gear ratios etc etc. If not that then a minor nations tree with Austria, Belgium or whatever combination can you think of, but it shouldn't be alone. © 2021 by Gaijin Games Kft. In War Thunder … ADATS sur roues dans le haut termine parfaitement la ligne. We’re happy to present to our players the first South African armoured vehicles as a separate branch of the British tech tree. Hello, I'm going to suggest adding Switzerland as a new nation to the game, and here is Swiss Ground Forces Tech Tree: https://pikpikker.neocities.org/swiss_wt.html. I tried to find any aircraft tech trees for Switzerland but there were not any. Powered by Invision Community. Of course clone/lend-leases vehicles do have a good place in the structure of War Thunder; providing a sensible way to fill gaps in tech trees of nations that were not as industrially … MLRS by MOWAG from 1960s (20 tubes presumably of 122 mm). But my opinion is that i would prefer Swiss tree to be added into the German tree. Néanmoins, la Suisse dispose d’un large éventail de chars et de véhicules militaires uniques construits localement, dont certains ont été fabriqués pour l’exportation. just like the Chinese tree … +1 I honestly love seeing new nations in the game combined with the fact that Switzerland is an awesome nation with a lot of cool native tank designs, although if it were added something should be done about their air tree. The second one is the Pz 87 WE that is already listed. It was installed on such armored chassis in case it could be observed by enemy (to resist a light fire). Also the canton of Ticino has lots of economical ties to Italy. Hello Pikker, I updated the cover photo for the Panzer 61 SAMM in my suggestion. Le véhicule était globalement bon, mais un seul a été fait parce qu’aucun acheteur n’était pour elle. Rank 1: 6 (for research) + 1 (premiums), Total: 75 vehicles (62 without premiums). Oerlikon-Bührle AG 20 mm Vierlings-Flabpanzer. MOWAG Roland experimentally fitted with 3 Mamba ATGM above the turret in 1960s. Tech Trees Explained - War Thunder Tankenstein. Climbing the ranks with US aircraft - War Thunder Official Channel Pages in category "USA aircraft" The following 148 pages are in this category, out of 148 total. Réservoirs légers avec une protection minuscule mais avec un armement dangereux. Nice, I have updated my picture with new one from your topic. Line 4 - light tanks. British ground forces Tier I - Review and Analysis - Oxy. War Thunder. Line 1 - tank destroyers. That said i dont want to discurage creating trees like this, I once did the same thing and thanks to some help from a guy who lived near the Swedish archives we eventually managed to get all that information and find new information on stuff we didnt even know existed. Â, Yes, I can imagine how difficult it can be about every single vehicle.Â, Well, I would really like to add all the information about every tank (as you did in your Swedish Tech Tree), but besides that it takes a lot of time, some of them need archive research which I'm unable to do, unfortunately.Â. MOWAG Piranha 4x4 avec 6 HOT ATGM monté. Is the swedish tech tree worth the grind? ADATS on wheels in the top perfectly finishes the line. +1 hopefully Gaijin does some more reasearch and can actually add this tree. I have added these new tanks and made some changesÂ. I find it amusing that people always give excuses as to why Trees such as Romania, Hunguary and now Switzerland can't get added because they dont have enough self-made vehicles. Experimental MOWAG Radpanzer with turret from Skorpion II tank destroyer (90 mm gun). war thunder gameplay ps4 - russian planes tech tree - YouTub War Thunder features a complex and detailed 'skill tree' type library of planes for each playable country. This page was last edited on 5 January 2021, at 11:46. because there was some fight against Germany too, not only America ! Like can you describe the ammunition stowage for each of these, or gun depression angles, internal and crew layout, gear ratios etc etc. This is why i say these trees look nice but lack any substance. Ive seen the war thunder forum say that the swedish tech tree is not … Its easy to say that but you have to realize that some photos mean nothing unless there is stats & hard data to back them up. https://pikpikker.neocities.org/about.html. Even if we did get it as a separate tree for the Swiss, I doubt it would get even half of what's shown here. There is a LOT of work that goes into researching and modeling each vehicle, much more than you think. They are all different: with and without turrets, with good and with bad protection. … Véhicules uniques avec des canons suisses uniques. Maintenant, je vais donner un petit commentaire sur chaque ligne. Tous les chars premium montrés peuvent être mis en œuvre comme disponibles à l’achat pour les Lions, les offres spéciales pack ou tout autre. You can access decent sources for all other tanks from my site (I will also answer all the questions regarding my tree if you have any!). but I don't see why this tech-tree should be integrated into an other one. The correct question would be "Which nation would be best for my play style?" Some of these things can pherhaps be estimated but not the majority. Switzerland has nothing to do with Italy. Voici des chars célèbres comme Panzer 58, Panzer 61 et 68. At the same … Et ils se terminent avec un canon massif de 140 mm. Rang 1: 6 (pour la recherche) + 1 (primes). La Suisse est connue par sa neutralité, ce qui la rend à la fois intéressante et difficile. There are some indigenous design, prototypes or production, but there is much less than the ground forces, France is a minor tree too, it has better chances to go with this nation than Sweden (Switzerland, just before the ww2, wanted to do an alliance with France, if Germany wanted to declare war to Switzerland). That is a possibel Tier 1 antiaircraft truck. © 2021 Gaijin Network Ltd. All rights reserved. and giving more plane/tanks for France too, that could work. All the BRs are approximate (or can be totally wrong), and were set as for arcade mode. Jus a couple of nitpicks: Firstly Pz 68 ET has both (very Leo 2 looking) composite armor and 120mm gun, that should make the tank 9.3 at the very minimum or 9.7 more optimally. Bien que je crois que l’arbre de technologie de l’armée de l’air suisse devrait être assez réel! Line 5 - ATGM wheeled vehicles. A world where an American in a German tank will claim Russian bias after being destroyed by an IS-2 that is sideclimbing because it's driver is in South America. It might be too late for its rank and BR but it is in the same position as R3 T20 FA-HS (being 1980s vehicle on rank 2 as well), so it may be possible. Alas there is no vote option for Swiss tech tree there, I would gladly vote thenÂ, Thanks! This page was last edited on 5 January 2021, at 11:46. But it's most likely a -1 if it's a sole Spanish tree. Some of these things can pherhaps be estimated but not the majority. The thing is it's just ground and even then we can't just show a random picture to Gaijin with the instructions "Gib nao" The issue is brought up with every minor tree. Its easy to … The other nations have spotty tech trees with very few vehicles which suffer issues. The tree is almost free of any import tanks, and I think this is a good reason to see this country in the game. Yes, they all are wheeled and have various interesting guns - like MRS-80 turret with two 80 mm rocket launchers or 75 mm smoothbore ARES system in the top.Â. Added as a … Unique vehicles with unique Swiss guns. There may be some problems with news display in specific browser versions. The XP-54, XP-56, and others. Prototypes, weird history, weirder cars, and obscurity. Even though there historical relations with Germany during the war was tense and there were a few interception of German planes during the war. I'm against of introducing 140mm guns to the game as of now. If South/Latin America is included in the main tree sure then it's a +1. Ligne 2 - SPAAG. Since there only are about 3 truly indigenous planes, and the rest is either license built or bought. Tous les BR sont approximatifs (ou peuvent être totalement faux), et ont été réglés comme pour le mode arcade. Je m’attends à ce que Praga LTL-H et Leichter Panzer 35 soient les réservoirs de la Réserve. It received new remote turret with 20 mm autocanon. There is also yet another swiss Leo 2A4 by RUAG (further development from Pz 87 WE) but this one did not enter service with the armed forces, the Leopard 2A4 Mid-Life: Also don´t forget that Swiss army has CV9030 IFV in service. Was a lot of fun working on this! Oui, ils sont tous à roues et ont divers canons intéressants - comme la tourelle MRS-80 avec deux lance-roquettes de 80 mm ou 75 mm smoothbore ARES système dans le haut. War Thunder pilots and tankers! Ligne 1 - chasseurs de chars. Maybe it's better to make it a part of Italian tech tree, as Germany already has a lot to offer. Research of 1900-1970's ground military vehicles: production versions, prototypes, projects and docs. The amx 13 turret on the piranha  hull... A definite +1 for me, the more nations in the game the merrier, imagine the amount of years of cool stuff we would get if they kept adding one nation a year (or two). The TIS MA is a gift rank III Soviet twin-engine fighter with a battle rating of 3.7 (AB/RB/SB). Subscribe Subscribed Unsubscribe 1.54K. Here is the vehicle list with all the tank pictures, but only a little number has a description. Unfortunately there is no information how many were built. J’ai essayé de trouver des arbres de technologie d’avion pour la Suisse, mais il n’y en avait pas. But these negative relations were nothing comparred to US bombardments of Swiss cities during the war. Though the official explanation is that these campaigns were a mistake and intended for German targets. By Of course it is a big work of implementing them, and no wonder if we will have to wait several years before the release of Switzerland in the game, for example. I'm a bit of a Reserve to 6.7 kinda guy myself :P). but I don't see why this tech-tree should be integrated into an other one. The only time a photo and a name is enough is when the vehicle is already well known and has already been documented in books or other material. British ground forces Tier II - Review and Analysis - Oxy. This was a 3 man tank developed my Marmon Herrington for the Dutch and is often called the Dutch three man tank. The vehicle was intended for export, but there was no interest in it, so it stayed in prototype stage. L’arbre est presque exempt de tous les réservoirs d’importation, et je pense que c’est une bonne raison de voir ce pays dans le jeu. But I propose that a … It is something that hypes me up quite a lot.Â. Cancel Unsubscribe. Vehicle overview: British tanks - War Thunder Official Channel. La liste complète des sources est assez grande, et vous pouvez y accéder ici: https://pikpikker.neocities.org/about.html, © 2021 by Gaijin Games Kft. Un seul (ou quelques-uns) a été construit, mais le véhicule a échoué parce qu’à l’époque ATGM étaient beaucoup mieux que 80 mm double lanceur. No SPAA, but we could add Skyguard and Rapier SAM, And because Switzerland being neutral, no actually country lock needed, side of choice - good Swiss tradition, to pick best of breed.Â. Meet the Olifant Mk1A, a heavily modified South African … Now I would like to add some words about my tech tree. À la fin il ya IFV moderne avec canon automatique. The Chinese tech tree imho is necessary in a game such as War Thunder due to a sizeable Chinese/Taiwanese player-base, their impact in world affairs during the 20th-21st Century (WWII, Korean War, etc. Ligne 5 - Véhicules à roues ATGM. As you can see, there is enough vehicles to build a classic (with at least 6 tanks per rank) tech tree with less than 10 copy-tanks in total! In any case I think it is a good idea Swiss tech-tree, there are many brilliant, funny to play and unique vehicles. With the axis look of their vehicles and great reliance on wheeled vehicles they would make a good additions to Italy so they wouldn't feel out of place, but that's just my opinion. Maintenant, je voudrais ajouter quelques mots sur mon arbre tech. Tourelle MRS-80 installée sur le camion allemand Magirus-Deutz en 1964. I see it more like the French tree, against America AND GermanyÂ. Cuz i don't wanna grind into another line of American tanks in order to try some unique high tier machines. I see that the leichter panzer 51 isnt here, i want my favourite 6.3 amx 13 in this swiss tech tree. Italian is one of the four official languages of Switzerland. All the shown premium tanks can be implemented as available for purchase for Lions, pack specials or any others. A United Korean Tech Tree With a large influx of modern vehicles, more people are wanting the South Korean MBT, the K1, to be added into the game. Seems like it did not go further because the gun had too much recoil for this light chassis (1954). MRS-80 turret installed on German Magirus-Deutz truck in 1964.Â, The full list of sources is pretty large, and you can access it here: https://pikpikker.neocities.org/about.html, (Though as a side note, probably wouldn't play it all that much, as it's 80% high tier. Planes throughout each … I find it amusing that people always give excuses as to why Trees such as Romania, Hunguary and now Switzerland can't get added because they dont have enough self-made vehicles. The Bf 109 F-1 is a rank II German fighter with a battle rating of 3.0 (AB), 2.3 (RB), and 3.3 (SB). This page was last edited on 18 November 2020, at 20:17. MRS-80 turret installed on MOWAG Tornado in 1975. Ligne 4 - réservoirs légers. The only proper argument against a Swiss tree is the lack of planes. We just have to figure out to which nation the merge would make most sense and would help to fill the tech tree. Like Swedish, we get confused with them anyway. Le véhicule était destiné à l’exportation, mais il n’y avait aucun intérêt à ce sujet, de sorte qu’il est resté à l’étape du prototype. Pros of the tech tree: It is a relatively easy tech tree to make like the Chinese was, since Hungary had the possibiliy to manufacture german planes under license the … Sure it's somewhat empty in the middle, but so would be the Italian or french tree … Veterans of War Thunder Ground Forces will remember that the Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K) was the crown jewel of the German tree during the early stages of development. Should be treated as an Leo 2A5 equivalent and therefore a strong candidate for "10.7"  (or whatever BR cap raise is gonna take place next year). Towing. Now I would like to add some words about my tech tree. https://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Ground_vehicles&oldid=88959. Description. Its general configuration is similar to the famous Pe-2/3"Peska", having two inline engines slung under the wings, a gunner in the back of the cockpit, and twin vertical stabilizers mounted at th… Though I believe Swiss Air Force tech tree should be pretty real! Un seul (ou peut-être peu) a été construit. Switzerland is known by its neutrality, and this makes it both interesting and difficult at the same time. Climbing the ranks with American vehicles - War Thunder Official Channel Pages in category "USA ground vehicles" The following 98 pages are in this category, out of 98 total. This Tech tree only contains 2 planes that are in game already (I do not count premium planes) Also for those people that says we do not need them right now, i am waiting for the french tree… Line 2 - SPAAGs. War Thunder has a lot of depth and a steep learning curve. We proudly present War Thunder tanks tech trees… Gaijin isnt going to pay to start sending researchers abroad to search for data they may or may not even find, that kind of research needs to be done by the comunity itself. This is my own site where you can enlarge every picture and click any tank to read about it! On dirait qu’il n’est pas allé plus loin parce que le pistolet avait trop de recul pour ce châssis léger (1954). One of the last projects of the Polikarpov design bureau, the TIS MA is a unique and deadly aircraft. But yet again you prove them wrong with all these amazing vehicles that obviously majority aren't in game that could totally be.  With 75 vehicles (majority being unique and not just copy pasta) it has plenty to give. [Update] "Shark Attack" War Thunder introduces a variety of new vehicles ranging from Russian helicopters to the first rank V naval vessels and the introduction of the Swedish … I expect Praga LTL-H and Leichter Panzer 35 to be the Reserve tanks. but I don't see why this tech-tree should be integrated into an other one. I saw that the swedish tech tree has 2 10.7 BR tanks that look pretty good. Il a reçu une nouvelle tourelle à distance avec un autocanon de 20 mm. Â, This is why i say these trees look nice but lack any substance. It would be great to see haflinger with atgm in the game! Nonetheless, Switzerland has a wide range of unique locally built tanks and military vehicles, some of which were made for export. Il a été installé sur un tel châssis blindé au cas où il pourrait être observé par l’ennemi (pour résister à un feu léger). It's not the most spoken in Switzerland, the language has nothing to do with the integration of the swiss tree, France and Germany are the 2 most probable trees that it could be added (I see it better for France because Germany has already a LOT of vehicles), It's the ground tree that has the most of unique vehicles (even if I dont care of the copy pastes, I even want them), the air force is more empty, but more famous, it's the problem if there is only Switzerland (well, Gaijin made that with Sweden, so why not with Switzerland). Il est peut-être trop tard pour son rang et BR, mais il est dans la même position que R3 T20 FA-HS (étant véhicule des années 1980 sur le rang 2 ainsi), il peut donc être possible. Battle rating of 3.7 ( AB/RB/SB ), we get confused with them anyway likely a -1 it. Spanish tree with good and with bad protection were built my suggestion implemented as available for purchase for,! 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